Friday, December 10th

Ingham opposes rights of conscience


Canadian Anglican bishop Michael Ingham disagrees with the recent decision of Canada's Supreme Court that said Parliament can legalize same-sex marriage. He has no problem with that, of course--his problem is with the Court saying that religious people shouldn't be forced to marry gays when that would violate their religious beliefs:

Thursday's decision supports ministers who object to the idea of gay marriages--ruling that they can't be forced to perform same-sex marriages if it goes against their religious beliefs.

Anglican Bishop Michael Ingham calls this a mixed blessing for the church, because it recognizes that religious organizations have the right to conduct marriages according to their own beliefs.

Ingham says that means the ruling could be used as a shield to discriminate.

"It means that if you're a non-believer, you can't discriminate against gay and lesbians, but if you're a believer you can. So if you want to discriminate against gays and lesbian people, join a religious organization."


As far as I know, even in Canada the Atheist Association or the Rotary Club can't perform weddings of any sort, so I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. But then, neither does the bishop.

Ingham also says if the law passes, it will help what he calls "tolerant forces" put pressure on the Anglican Church to deal with gay marriage.

That line about "tolerant forces" is a joke, of course. Ingham numbers himself chief among the "tolerant," yet talks like a totalitarian when it comes to the right of those who dissent from the state's gay orthodoxy, calling it "discrimination" (which shouldn't be tolerated by the state) when some people refuse to recognize the glories of homosexuality. I'm betting that when the masks come off and the Frozen North is officially renamed the People's Republic of Canada, Michael Ingham is bucking for the post of Commissar for Religious Affairs.

Oh, and by the way, there are still parishes in Ingham's diocese that aren't performing same-sex weddings. On the basis of this statement, I imagine the next move will be for the bishop to mandate that all parishes must do so, and to suppress any that won't (beyond the several he's already closed).

(Thanks to CaNN for the link.)
Athanasius on 12.10.04 @ 05:21 PM EST [link] [No Comments]


Thursday, December 9th

Prominent British atheist: there's Intelligence out there


Antony Flew, one of the world's most widely respected philosophers who has argued the case for atheism for decades, has apparently had a change of mind:

A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God more or less based on scientific evidence, and says so on a video released Thursday.

At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.

Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.

"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."


He has the God of Christianity all wrong, of course, but the point of this post isn't that he's become a Christian. It's that maybe there actually are good reasons to doubt the materialistic naturalism that forms the Procrustean bed for much evolutionary thinking:

Yet biologists' investigation of DNA "has shown, by the almost unbelievable complexity of the arrangements which are needed to produce (life), that intelligence must have been involved," Flew says in the new video, "Has Science Discovered God?"

The video draws from a New York discussion last May organized by author Roy Abraham Varghese's Institute for Metascientific Research in Garland, Texas. Participants were Flew; Varghese; Israeli physicist Gerald Schroeder, an Orthodox Jew; and Roman Catholic philosopher John Haldane of Scotland's University of St. Andrews.

The first hint of Flew's turn was a letter to the August-September issue of Britain's Philosophy Now magazine. "It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism," he wrote.

The letter commended arguments in Schroeder's "The Hidden Face of God" and "The Wonder of the World" by Varghese, an Eastern Rite Catholic layman.

This week, Flew finished writing the first formal account of his new outlook for the introduction to a new edition of his "God and Philosophy," scheduled for release next year by Prometheus Press.

Prometheus specializes in skeptical thought, but if his belief upsets people, well "that's too bad," Flew said. "My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato's Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it leads."

Flew told The Associated Press his current ideas have some similarity with American "intelligent design" theorists, who see evidence for a guiding force in the construction of the universe. He accepts Darwinian evolution but doubts it can explain the ultimate origins of life.


And that is the point. I would hope Flew would also agree that it is high time that evolution be dethroned as a form of unquestionable civil religion, and be returned to the realm of scientific investigation to which it rightfully belongs.

(Thanks to Mere Comments for the link.)
Athanasius on 12.09.04 @ 08:01 PM EST [link] [2 Comments]


UCC goes on the attack


CBS and NBC had better watch out: the United Church of Christ is playing hardball:

The United Church of Christ is filing two petitions with the Federal Communications Commission, asking that two network owned-and-operated television stations in Miami be denied license renewals for failing to provide viewers "suitable access" to a full array of "social, political, esthetic, moral and other ideas and experiences."

WFOR-TV (a CBS station) and WJVT-TV (an NBC station)--whose operating licenses are currently up for FCC review--are being challenged because "there is substantial and material question" as to whether the stations' parent companies, Viacom, Inc., and the General Electric Company, have operated the stations in the public interest, the petitions state.

The action stems from a much-publicized decision by both networks to deny an advertisement that makes clear the church's welcome of diverse, even marginalized, segments of the population. CBS and NBC have said the all-inclusive ads are "controversial" and, therefore, amount to "issue advocacy," something the networks have said they do not allow.

In a signed statement that accompanies the petition, the Rev. John H. Thomas, the UCC's general minister and president, said, "The religious, ethical and moral right of members of UCC churches and other citizens to have access to diverse programming has been harmed by the refusal of NBC and CBS to carry [the ad], as well as by their failure to carry programming reflecting the full range of religious expression in the United States on their networks and on their owned-and-operated stations."

Gloria Tristani, OC Inc.'s managing director and a former FCC commissioner (1997-2001), said, "NBC and CBS and their stations must be accountable to the communities they are licensed to serve. How can it be in the public interest for television stations to exclude a church's message of inclusion?"


As I've said all along, I think the networks should have run the ad, and that much of what they've said to justify their refusal to do so has been either ridiculous or questionable or both. But I doubt the UCC will get anywhere with this strategy since advertising really isn't "programming," and the networks aren't obligated to sell air time to just anyone who wants to buy it (I can't wait for the UCC to object to "censorship" when Islamic fundamentalists are turned down in their attempt to buy network ad time to advocate the execution of homosexuals and adulterers). As for Ms. Tristani, she needs to answer the question, "how can it be in the public interest for television stations to broadcast one church's attack on others as racist?"
Athanasius on 12.09.04 @ 06:25 PM EST [link] [No Comments]


Wednesday, December 8th

God's inclusivity or man's?


It won't be popular with the evangelists for the gospel of inclusiveness, but Dean Waldt, a practicing attorney and parish associate at Faith United Presbyterian Church in Medford, New Jersey has some choice words meant to uphold the gospel of Christ. He writes in ReNews, a publication of Presbyterians for Renewal:

Just as tolerance is skewed without the Cross, so inclusion gets redefined as the universal acceptance by God of all our personal choices, as long as they are grounded in love. But Jesus Christ did not come to tell us we are just fine the way we are. The essence of the Gospel is "Repent and believe!"

Is God inclusive at all? Yes, indeed! God actually so loved the world that he sent his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have eternal life (Jn 3:16). The offer is extended to al--and accepted by few. Broad is the path that leads to destruction and narrow is the gate to life (Mt 7:14).

How seldom we hear the rest of Jesus' words to Nicodemus in John 3: "...he who does not believe is judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world and men loved darkness rather than the Light, because their deeds were evil" (Jn 3:18a–19 NASB).

Jesus told us that some invited guests will never sit down to dinner (Lk 14:24), that some will be cast into outer darkness (Mt 8:12), that wheat will be harvested and tares will be burned in the fire (Mt 13:41). God issues an all-inclusive call to repentance and faith in Jesus Christ, but true faith in Christ involves death to sin and a life of obedience to God (Rom 6:11). Thus, if we say we have fellowship with him and yet walk in darkness we lie, and the truth is not in us (1 Jn 1:6).

This is the inclusiveness of God. God is under no obligation to save anyone. Yet our gracious and merciful God offers salvation to all who repent and believe in Jesus Christ.


He also has some things to say about "tolerance" and "unity" (of the sort that says that schism is worse than heresy, a la Bishops Bennison and Lee of the ECUSA). Definitely worth a look.

(Thanks for Kendall Harmon for the link.)
Athanasius on 12.08.04 @ 08:40 PM EST [link] [No Comments]


A new way of looking at church


For those interested in a significantly different way of looking at the church, I commend for your consideration this article from Christian Century on the "emerging church." Here's a sample:

The emerging church is not shy about raiding the storehouses of the Roman Catholics, the Orthodox and the Anglicans for richer liturgies as well as prayer beads, icons, spiritual direction, lectio divina and a deeper sacramentality. The return to ancient faith and practice is increasingly seen as a way forward in churches polarized by worship wars and theological intransigence.

Thus, emerging churches often characterize themselves as "ancient-future," a phrase that comes from a series of books authored by [Dr. Robert] Webber (
Ancient-Future Faith, Ancient-Future Evangelism, Ancient-Future Time). This return to the past should not be confused with a nostalgia for 1950s Protestantism or with a circling of the wagons around a purer Reformation theology. The return is deeper, looking to the treasures of the medieval and patristic theologies and to practices that have long been ignored by evangelicals.

Webber is a hero of mine--I've been reading his books since seminary days, and he practically embodies the old line about being "way ahead of your time." Read the whole thing, and then go get Webber's ancient-future books. You won't be disapppinted.
Athanasius on 12.08.04 @ 07:52 PM EST [link] [No Comments]


Syro-Lebanese dhimmis write to PCUSA


Presbyterians in Syria and Lebanon (bet you didn't know there were any) are upset that two PCUSA staffers lost their jobs for meeting with Hezbollah:

The Evangelical Synod of Syria and Lebanon sent a message to the Presbyterian Church (USA) warning that churches abroad are interpreting a decision to fire two top officials as buckling to appease the U.S. Jewish community that is already angered by a General Assembly action.

"We are really disappointed," said the Rev. Joseph Kassab, the executive secretary of the National Evangelical Synod of Syria and Lebanon in a telephone interview with the Presbyterian News Service. "It is sad that these two people would be scapegoated for pressures that have been put on the PC(USA).That is our belief now.

"We don't know the details. But that is the best read we can put on it."


So, let's see: the Presbyterians in Syria live under a regime with a horrendous human rights record that destroyed an entire city (Hama) in the 80s when its residents got uppity. The Presbyterians in Lebanon live in a country that is occupied by Syria (an occupation that goes unremarked upon by the usual suspects in either the West or the Middle East) and allows a terrorist group to sit in its Parliament. So it's easy to see why they would think that listening to the protests of Jewish groups over a PCUSA delegation visit to Hezbollah--an organization financed by Iran that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel--wouldn't be the right thing to do.

The church was referring to the late November decision by General Assembly council Executive Director John Detterick to apparently fire his deputy director, Kathy Lueckert, and the director of the church's Advisory Committee on Social Witness Policy (ACSWP), the Rev. Peter Sulyok.

"We understand the situation. We understand the pressure. But we cannot approve it," Kassab told PNS, who said that visits to the detention site are routine for groups who are analyzing Lebanon's religious and political life--and it isn’t unusual for Christian travel-study trips to meet with Hezbollah officials.

Kassab wrote that the church feels sorrow and embarrassment that the denomination was apparently "pushed" to this decision to appease Zionist groups.


His church feels "sorrow and embarrassment" that the PCUSA acted by actually listening to the concerns of those dedicated to Israel's continued existence rather than those who want to "push" the Jews into the sea. Somehow I don't think a letter like this is going to help the PCUSA with its "Jewish problem."


Athanasius on 12.08.04 @ 07:27 PM EST [link] [No Comments]


Auschwitz and Israel: it's all the same to many Germans


From the Jerusalem Post comes word of a case study in the failure of a large population to be able to make even elementary moral distinctions:

Six decades after the mass extermination of six million Jews in the Holocaust by Nazi Germany, more than 50 percent of Germans believe that Israel's present-day treatment of the Palestinians is similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews during World War II, a German survey released this weekend shows.

51 percent of respondents said that there is not much of a difference between what Israel is doing to the Palestinians today and what the Nazis did to the Jews during the Holocaust, compared to 49% who disagreed with such a comparison, according to the poll carried out by Germany's University of Bielefeld.

The survey also found that 68 percent of Germans believe that Israel is waging a "war of extermination" against the Palestinians, while some 32% disagreed with such a statement.

"The energies which bring about such answers come to protect feelings of guilt," Shalev said. 62 percent of respondents in the poll said that they were sick of "all this harping" of German crimes against Jews, while 68% said that they found it "annoying" that Germans today are still held to blame for Nazi crimes against Jews.

The survey, which aimed to determine what is "the cut off point" between criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism, finds that while "classical" anti-Semitism in Germany is on the wane, secondary anti-Semitism, often couched in anti-Israel views are on the rise, especially among the Left.


So where's the failure? Is it distorted historical education? Is it the media? Is it a people seeking to slough off the guilt that knowledge of their past brings? I don't profess to know where the failure lies, but that there is one is certain, and people who can't distinguish between check points and Auschwitz are people who shouldn't be trusted with any kind of power.
Athanasius on 12.08.04 @ 09:39 AM EST [link] [No Comments]


Tuesday, December 7th

Good thoughts on Christmas from a Muslim Aussie


Australia is currently in the midst of the same kind of Christmas silliness that the United States annually finds itself in, with multiculturalists trying to ban various types of Christmas expression for fear of offending someone. A Muslim lawyer, Waleed Aly, brings some good sense to bear in an article in The Australian:

Driving Christmas underground only erodes this treasured Australian norm and that is far more troubling to me than any Christmas celebration. I find the idea of restraining religious expression substantially more offensive than I find any nativity display. The impoverishment of Christmas is done more on behalf of religious minorities than by them.

This is where political correctness loses the plot; what purports to inspire tolerance instead inspires hostility and intolerance. Diverse, vibrant and tolerant societies are created by allowing eclectic cultural and religious expressions, celebrations included, to flourish. You don't achieve that by surrendering a culture, replacing it with bland meaninglessness.

Denying the Christianity in Christmas or, worse, doing away with it altogether helps no one. This is not multiculturalism. It is anti-culturalism.


Read the whole piece.
Athanasius on 12.07.04 @ 03:03 PM EST [link] [1 Comment]


Wednesday, December 8th

Tarring with a broader brush than you thought


Bernice Powell Jackson, the executive minister of Justice and Witness Ministries for the United Church of Christ, was on Hardball with Chris Matthews last week. They were talking about the UCC's "Still Speaking" ad, and Matthews, a liberal who generally knows when he's being spun, wasn't with the program. Via UCCTruths.com, here's a portion of the exchange:

Chris Matthews: Do you think that the networks are smart not to engage in competitive religious advertising--like, you know, like some TV products--they knock the other products so they can sell their products more successfully? Do you think religion should say "those churches are no good, ours is good"? Is that a good policy for a Christian religion to follow?

Bernice Powell Jackson: Well, I don't think we are trying to point fingers at any one church and...

CM: Sure you are.

BPJ: No.

CM: (emphatically) Oh come on. You're showing a bunch of brown shirts, you're showing people in crew cuts--they look like bouncers in a nightclub...

BPJ: Right.

CM: ...shoving people away who happen to be African-Americans or apparently gay--gay couples--and you're saying you're not pointing a finger?

BPJ: No, we're not pointing a finger at any one church, I said. I think we're pointing a finger at all churches.


Now, given that the UCC ad is quite explicit that they don't do this kind of thing, what Rev. Jackson seems to be saying is that everyone else does. Not just those evil right-wing conservative evangelical fundamentalist people, but even their fellow mainliners. Heck, she seems to be saying that even Unitarians--a "church" so inclusive that a large minority of its members are atheists, while others are Wiccans, Buddhists, Hindus, and who knows what else, and which has been supporting homosexuals since before they were gay (which is to say well before the UCC)--aren't as inclusive as the UCC. If I were William Sinkford, president of the UUA, I'd be calling up Rev. Jackson and giving her a good talking-to.

OK, so I'm sure if he even heard it he figured it was a slip of the tongue, and surely Rev. Jackson didn't mean to say that the UCC was more inclusive than any other American church. But it's apparent that perhaps without even realizing it, she fell right into the "finger-pointing" language that I and other critics of the ad have been saying it embodied for the last two weeks. They can deny it all they want, but if even Chris Matthews--who no one is going to mistake for an employee of Christianity Today--could see that the ad is built on denigration of other churches, then it must be pretty clear.
Athanasius on 12.08.04 @ 04:04 AM EST [link] [No Comments]


Tuesday, December 7th

The promise of stem cells without the guilt


This is what we ought to be talking about, rather than the fairy tales of embryonic stem cells:

The promise of stem-cell therapy is no fairy tale. The idea that stem cells could help someone like paralyzed actor Christopher Reeve walk again is no pipe dream.

On Thanksgiving Day, a South Korean woman, Hwang Mi-Soon, paralyzed for 20 years after a spinal-cord injury, rose from her wheelchair and, tearfully and with the help of a walker, took a few steps. Thanks to stem-cell therapy.

The doctors were cautious: Their work needs to be peer-reviewed and replicated. Still, the world has been waiting for this news. Stem-cell therapy has become the most hyped scientific advance since cold fusion. Californians voted to spend at least $3 billion of their money on it. Some politicians want to likewise spend our money. Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards said if Sen. John Kerry were elected president, "people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."

So then why didn't Hwang make the front page of every American newspaper? Has nearly every American editor suddenly turned stupid?

Not likely. More likely it's because the stem cells used in Hwang's therapy were from umbilical cord blood instead of embryos. Why should that make a difference? Because if you favor embryonic stem cells, you are a smart, loving person. But if you favor cord cells, you are a Luddite. If you want to avoid the ethical, moral or religious difficulties posed by killing embryonic human life or by creating it solely for the purpose of prospecting, you are a cruel person who would let people suffer and die from horrible, painful diseases or injuries. Same goes for advocates of "adult" stem cells extracted harmlessly and without any ethical problems from living tissues of adults and children. In short: Good guys equal embryonic stem cells; bad guys equal adult and cord stem cells.


Advocates of ESCR, including prominent politicians, have exaggerated and been misleading and in some instances positively dishonest about the potential benefits. What Dennis Byrne describes in the Chicago Tribune is reality. That's what the government, the universities, and business should be running with, if they truly care about making a serious difference in people's lives without transgressing ethical boundaries once universally recognized.
Athanasius on 12.07.04 @ 02:57 AM EST [link] [No Comments]


Monday, December 6th

On the trail of an international terror


Check out this very funny piece from a guy with way too much time on his hands. Entitled "The Adventures of Chris Johnson, Anglican Investigator," it definitely indicates that the author of MCJ, a librarian by trade, needs to make a quick career shift to fill the Mickey Spillane slot at the local Barnes & Noble.
Athanasius on 12.06.04 @ 01:05 AM EST [link] [No Comments]


Sunday, December 5th

Lutheran church hires gay pastor, loses recognition


Another mainline congregation that decided it was above the rules has been told otherwise, this time in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America:

An urban ministry that aids the poor and homeless had its official recognition removed by Lutheran church officials in a dispute over an associate pastor who is in a lesbian relationship.

The decision by the Pacifica Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which oversees congregations in parts of Southern California, marks the most severe punishment of a Lutheran congregation over the issue of homosexual clergy in more than a decade.

"We thought those days were over," Pastor David Kalke, who leads the Central City Lutheran Mission, told the Los Angeles Times for a Saturday story. "It appears conservatism has raised its ugly head here in Southern California, much to our surprise."


Yes, those horrible people who expect things to be done decently and in order, and who have this bizarre notion that if you're part of an organization you agree to abide by the principles and rules of that organization, have done it again.

Kalke said he intends to lead Central City as an independent Lutheran congregation.

How divisive of him!

The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America allows gay clergy only if they are celibate. Thirteen other congregations that have installed openly gay and lesbian pastors have received milder punishments.

Pacifica Synod Bishop Murray Finck said the Central City mission violated the church's constitution when it installed Pastor Jenny Mason in April because Mason is not on the church's official roster of recognized pastors. He said the Oct. 29 decision has nothing to do with Mason's sexual orientation but also said Mason is not on the roster because she is gay and not celibate.


I understand what he's saying, but he's being disingenuous to say that the decision had nothing to do with homosexuality. Of course it did, even if only indirectly.

Discipline was once handled by the national church, but after a 1990 dispute with two San Francisco congregations that had installed openly gay clergy and were ultimately kicked out of the church, discipline became a matter that synods handled, said Greg Egertson, co-chairman of Lutheran Lesbian and Gay Ministries in San Francisco.

Since 1990, no congregations have been stripped of recognition for installing gay clergy. National church leaders are studying the issue ahead of an August meeting of the church's National Assembly.

Egertson said the Pacifica Synod may be trying to send a message to the assembly.

"It's out of step with what other synods are doing and it's very badly timed," he said.


Of course it is. Again, it's revisionists trying to change facts on the ground in order to force the denomination to do what it might not believe it should do, a la the extra-canonical ordination of women in the ECUSA in 1977.

Mason previously served 10 years as an officially recognized Lutheran pastor and missionary in Chile, but the church learned of her long-term relationship with another woman and forced her to resign in 2001.

"I don't know the good folks who live in Orange County," Mason said, "but that's where our synod office is and I have a feeling that's what moves decisions more than serving the poor and the oppressed in the inner city of San Bernardino."


Man sounds like a Baptist. If it's all about the local church, and nothing but the local church, and even the people in the next county can't tell you what to do, by all means go independent.

UPDATE: As of Monday evening, this story was deemed inconsequential enough for ELCA News to ignore it entirely. Has there been a migration lately from the Episcopal News Service to ELCA News, or is it just an agreed upon policy of mainline media to ignore uncomfortable news as much as possible? (Actually, I need to temper that last comment: United Methodist News Service has done a pretty good job of staying on top of unpleasant developments in the UMC.)
Athanasius on 12.05.04 @ 04:56 PM EST [link]


Friday, December 3rd

UCC ad controversy continues to simmer


Back to the UCC ad. This is from the Boston Globe story on the furor that has been raised by the Big Three TV networks refusal to broadcast it:

In an interview yesterday, the president of research for NBC, Alan Wurtzel, said the spot ''violated a longstanding policy of NBC, which is that we don't permit commercials to deal with issues of public controversy." Wurtzel, who is in charge of broadcast standards at the network, said such issues should be handled by the news department and not in advertising.

''The problem is not that it depicted gays, but that it suggested clearly that there are churches that don't permit a variety of individuals to participate," Wurtzel said. ''If they would make it just a positive message--'we're all-inclusive'--we'd have no problem with that spot."


As I've thought was the case all along. Part of the problem is that UCC types can't even see what the problem with the ad is:

''All ads are advocacy; what else is an advertisement if not an opportunity to advocate for your toothpaste or your cause?" said the Rev. Nancy S. Taylor, president of the Massachusetts conference of the United Church of Christ, the largest Protestant denomination in the state. ''The ads are about hospitality and a wide welcome. And how that is controversial--I find that extraordinary. We are stunned."

Taylor said the ad is not intended to criticize other denominations. She said she showed the ad to members of the Massachusetts Council of Churches, an umbrella organization of Protestant and Orthodox churches, where it drew no criticism.


Of course not. If you look at the membership of the MCoC, you quickly realize that every member denomination, with the possible exceptions of the the Evangelical Covenant Church and the Greek Orthodox Metropolitanate, would have no problem seeing themselves as the producer of such an ad. They obviously didn't ask any of the evangelical, Pentecostal, or Catholic churches that might have thought themselves targets what they thought of it. As for Rev. Taylor's inability to see that the ad doesn't at least implicitly criticize other churches of racial exclusion (I think the whole gay thing, if it's even there, is so subtle as to be a red herring), I have to conclude that she's being disingenuous. After all, it isn't a night club that those bouncers are keeping select people out of--it's a church.
Athanasius on 12.03.04 @ 08:40 PM EST [link]


Further responses to the Stroud verdict


Here are some of the responses coming in to the conviction of United Methodist pastor Beth Stroud on the charge of engaging in "practices that are incompatible with Christian teachings."

From Suzy Keenan, communications director of the Eastern Pennsylvania Conference: "[T]he pain and division that exists over this issue of homosexuality is not ending. This conference, like others across the church, will continue to struggle with how to be open and inclusive while living within the spirit and letter of United Methodist Church law."

Translation: We don't like this one little bit, and if it were up to us Beth Stroud would still be a United Methodist pastor. But we don't get to make the rules, which we'd change if we could.

"Right now, many members of our congregation are disappointed and angry and wonder what their continuing role in the United Methodist Church might be," said Alan Symonette, co-lay leader of First Church. He added that First Church must continue the struggle as the "conscience of the church" on behalf of gays and lesbians.

"Wonder what their continuing role" in the denomination will be? Gee, they sound just like all those divisive, narrow-minded conservatives in the ECUSA.

"We have no delight in finding a colleague guilty of the charge," said the Rev. Thomas Hall, church counsel, who presented the conference’s case against Stroud. "In this case, the evidence is clear and convincing." He said the trial court came to the proper decision "in this case and at this time."

This is a much better response to an unfortunate situation than that of the prosecutor in the Karen Dammann trial, whose response basically was, "I'm glad she was acquitted, we had no business trying her in the first place."

"It was difficult and painful for all those involved," said Stephen Drachler, spokesman for the United Methodist Church. "But the process worked in the way it was designed to work."

Certainly it worked better than it did last spring, where a jury simply put their personal preferences above the law of the church.

"In most of the church there is a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy like in the military," said the Rev. George McClain, an instructor in United Methodist studies at the liberal Union Theological Seminary in New York. "You might have activists now on the right who want to ferret out gay people and those on the other side who are gay but don't want to live a double life anymore."

Like Ms. Stroud. I don't see any conservatives sneaking into the parsonage bushes with cameras. But if a pastor wants to proclaim his or her defiance of a denomination's disciplinary standards, why should anyone stand around and play dumb?

"It's a very positive declaration that church law will be upheld," said Patricia L. Miller of Indianapolis, executive director of the Confessing Movement, an evangelical renewal movement within the 8.3 million-member denomination.

On the other side of the political and ecclesiastical battle lines, the Rev. Troy Plummer said Stroud's ouster was cause for "great sadness."

"Nobody won today," said Plummer, executive director of the Reconciling Ministries Network, an alliance of about 200 congregations and campus ministries working for full acceptance of homosexuals in the Methodist Church. "Beth lost her credentials but kept her integrity. The church kept its rules but lost its integrity."


Yeah, the church would have had a lot more integrity if the jury had said, "Forget what General Conference said. Buncha yahoos. And forget Scripture and church tradition, too. Better to do what we want to do. That would have been an act of integrity.


Athanasius on 12.03.04 @ 06:26 PM EST [link]


What that UCC ad is really about


Not at all surprisingly, Ted Olsen of Christianity Today's Weblog gets it, and pulls no punches:

Go watch the ad and see if it's a commercial about homosexuality and gay marriage. Who's gay? Those two women sitting next to each other? Those two guys trying to enter a church at the same time? Gee, under that criteria, even hatemonger Fred Phelps's Westboro Baptist cult is quite the "affirming congregation," what with its allowing people of the same gender to interact and even develop friendships.

But apparently the UCC is quite concerned about churches that require boy-girl-boy-girl seating. But even more so, the UCC opposes all those congregations out there that ban non-whites from attending. Because the message of this ad isn't that the UCC welcomes minorities—it's that all the other churches out there hate you.

The ad shows some bouncers at the front of a church, refusing to let anyone but boy-girl pairs through the door. There's the two guys, but the others are a black woman and a young man who may be Latino or Asian. "No way," they say.

The gay stuff, if it's there, is way too subtle to be noticed by Joe Couch Potato. But the accusation of racism is none too subtle. And actually, that's the reason that NBC said "no way" to the ad. The ad ends with the line, "Jesus didn't turn people away, neither do we," NBC's Alan Wurtzel explained to The New York Times. "That message clearly implies that other people do."

In fact, when evangelical Christian leaders saw the ad last spring, Faith and Values CEO Edward J. Murray told the Times, it wasn't the shots of two men and two women that had them concerned. It was the implication that their churches excluded people....

It's worth noting that the UCC may not be turning people away, but its members are fleeing in droves. The denomination has lost 23 percent of its membership in the past 15 years, reports the Associated Press. This is not a denomination that needs crowd control.

One wonders if this $30 million campaign will really help. All this "controversy" gets the UCC in the news today, but the denomination has a long way to go to win the kind of free publicity the Episcopal Church USA gets almost every other day. These days, when folks think about churches that celebrate homosexual behavior, it's the Episcopalians, not Congregationalists, that first come to mind.

The "all the other churches are racist and homophobic" aspect of the ad campaign is only one part. The campaign's dominant tagline is from the Gospel of Gracie Allen: "Never place a period where God has placed a comma." Other aspects of the campaign show sentences with periods replaced by commas. And you know how much mispunctuation attracts those church-goers. It's almost as attractive as telling them, "Come to a church where we don't really believe anything."...

The larger story here is a cultural disconnect between persuasion and evangelism—or, to use the pejorative phrase, "proselytizing." Tell someone that they're uncool, stupid, or in danger unless they buy a certain product, you're in the clear. Tell them that they're endangering their eternal soul unless they turn to God, and you're infringing on their freedom. Tell someone that a widget will make them happy, and you're doing your part to stimulate the economy. Tell someone where to find true joy, and you're a zealot. Persuading "swing voters" and changing consumers' habits are part of everyday life, but we find something nefarious in telling people why one view of God is better than another.

But in this case, the UCC has turned this discussion on its head. This is not an evangelistic ad in the usual sense. This is not "God loves you and has a wonderful plan for you life" or "Steps to peace with God." The message is "We're the only ones that accept you. Other churches are full of hate." The UCC wrestles not against "the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." In the ad, it wrestles against flesh and blood—the church down the street that hates minorities.

Only that church doesn't really exist. Evangelistically minded churches want everybody to attend, regardless of race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, or manner in which they most frequently sin. Like Jesus, they do accept everybody. And like Jesus, then they meet people's needs—which often includes Jesus' command, "Go, and sin no more."

And there actually is a period, not a comma, at the end of that sentence.


Ted's right, and all the self-righteous posturing on the part of UCC-types telling us that the networks rejected the ad just because of its supposed message of acceptance of gays won't wash. I still think they should have run the ad--if only to have exposed the UCC's dominant ideology for the divisive mindset that it is.
Athanasius on 12.03.04 @ 05:42 AM EST [link]


Beth Stroud reacts to guilty verdict


Beth Stroud gave a statement to the press after the guilty verdict was announced today. Here's the release from the United Methodist News Service:

"I did not go into this trial expecting to win," she said. "I went into it knowing that it would be a painful moment in the life of the United Methodist Church and in the life of this annual conference. But I believe that it is important for our church and for the annual conference to experience this pain together and to acknowledge this pain. I am hopeful that in time, and that through God's spirit, that the United Methodist Church will change its Discipline." The Book of Discipline contains the denomination's laws and polity.

When asked what was on her heart, she responded: "A lot of concern for my family and for my congregation. This has been a very emotional time for them. It is painful for them. My congregation was more hopeful than I was myself about an acquittal. I feel for them and am concerned about them."

Reacting to the guilty verdict, she said, "I am not surprised. I would have been overwhelmed with an acquittal, but I think it is important to say that either a guilty verdict or an acquittal would have been a very challenging verdict for the United Methodist Church because we are so divided."

Stroud was asked whether she felt like a martyr. Drawing on the Greek she learned in seminary, she said that "martyr" means witness, a person who stands for what they believe and gives testimony. "God created me as a lesbian and God, knowing that about me, called me into the ministry."

And asked if she was angry, she replied, "I have so many feelings right now. I am angry but also comforted. I appreciate the spirit of these proceedings" but "I feel sad and a little strange. I don't know what the first Sunday at church after this verdict is going to feel like. I have all kinds of feelings."



Athanasius on 12.03.04 @ 04:29 AM EST [link]


Go easy on the new guy


A new blog worth a look: RoofTop Blog.
Athanasius on 12.03.04 @ 12:10 AM EST [link]


Thursday, December 2nd

Further muddying of the UCC ad waters


Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo, needless to say, is much bigger in the world of blogging than I am. So he has managed to get an explanation from CBS about their refusal to run the UCC ad where I have failed. First, a refresher. The reasons CBS gave don't make a lot of sense, and Marshall summarizes them this way:

1. The alleged policy of not running ads which address issue of public debate or controversy.

2. An alleged rule against ads from religious organizations which can be said in any way to proselytize.
(The CBS memo Marshall obtained says CBS and UPN "accept advertising from churches and religious organizations which deliver secular messages that are beneficial to society in general [but not] advertising that proselytizes on behalf of any single religion...In our view, this commercial does proselytize." That being the case, one would have to wonder why they accepted the United Methodist Church's "Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors" ads.)

3. And the fact that President Bush has recently called for a constitutional ban on gay marriage.

When he talked to a CBS flak, he was told that what this means is this:

The network--as opposed to affiliate stations--runs no issue advocacy ads in cases where the issue is a matter of public debate. However, they will run political candidate ads.

Their policy of running candidate ads is pretty much moot since it seldom pays for a national candidate to spend money blanketing the whole country with an ad. But the spokesman said they will run them.

Then I asked about anti-smoking ads or the anti-drug ads paid for by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. The spokesman told me that the network does sometimes run these ads and does so in cases where the issue is not one of public controversy.

So, for instance, they might run an anti-smoking ad because no one disagrees that smoking is bad for your health, etc.

CBS's rationale for this policy, said the spokesman, is their desire not to let groups with "deep pockets" control the public debate through paid advertising.

I can think of a lot of reasons why this is neither a good nor a coherent policy. But that's their explanation of it.


There's a lot of paranoia in the left-wing blogosphere (religious and secular) about how this is the opening scene in the Sturm und Drang that's going to lead to the imposition of Bush's fascist dictatorship, wherein the corporate toadies of the Adminstration start squelching progressive voices. Personally, I think this is corporate idiocy based on a fear of upsetting huge swaths of the broadcasters' audiences that will think they are the object of the UCC's snarky anti-exclusivist vignette in the first half of the ad. If the UCC were to take the second half, and attach it to a different fifteen seconds that didn't contain an implicit slur directed at much of the rest of American Christianity, I doubt that there would be any problem at all. That's because I don't believe CBS' explanations about advocacy ads or proselytism--that's just a smokescreen.
Athanasius on 12.02.04 @ 11:34 PM EST [link]


Stroud convicted, sentence to be set today


The Rev. Beth Stroud has, to no one's surprise, been convicted of being in violation of the United Methodist Book of Discipline for being in a lesbian relationship. The vote was 12-1 (on what possible grounds any honest juror could have voted to acquit is anybody's guess). Quote of the day so far:

Stroud's defense counsel, the Rev. J. Dennis Williams, said in closing arguments that "the heart of the issue is whether all United Methodists, regardless of status, are to be afforded equal rights and equal opportunities."

Rev. Williamson admittedly had a difficult task, defending someone who has been very public with her confession that she is in fact doing what she's charged with. But that doesn't mean he has to say that the issue is one of "equal right and equal opportunities." Ordained ministry is neither a right nor an opportunity, but a calling, one into which Rev. Stroud wouldn't be allowed to proceed given her current circumstances if she were up before a Board of Ordained Ministry today.

Needless to say, Soulforce has already fired off a statement:

"The United Methodist Church's deceptive marketing slogan is 'Open Hearts, Open Minds, and Open Doors,' but the Church's heart, mind, and doors are not open to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people," declared Laura Montgomery Rutt, Director of Communications for Soulforce, Inc. "This verdict shows the blatant hypocrisy of the United Methodist Church and poignantly illustrates the spiritual violence that the Church perpetuates against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people, both inside and outside the church."

In other words, the usual boilerplate. See below for a response to the same old thing.

UPDATE: The jury has defrocked Stroud by a vote of 7-6. No word on what penalty the minority may have advocated.
Athanasius on 12.02.04 @ 09:39 PM EST [link]


The Groningen Protocol


Yet another form of death comes to the Netherlands:

A hospital in the Netherlands--the first nation to permit euthanasia--recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally ill newborns, and then made a startling revelation: It has already begun carrying out such procedures, which include administering a lethal dose of sedatives.

The announcement by the Groningen Academic Hospital came amid a growing discussion in Holland on whether to legalize euthanasia on people incapable of deciding for themselves whether they want to end their lives--a prospect viewed with horror by euthanasia opponents and as a natural evolution by advocates.

In August, the main Dutch doctors' association KNMG urged the Health Ministry to create an independent board to review euthanasia cases for terminally ill people "with no free will," including children, the severely mentally retarded and people left in an irreversible coma after an accident.


I don't like to make these kinds of comparisons, but this really is starting to sound like the Nazi euthanasia program.

The Health Ministry is preparing its response, which could come as soon as December, a spokesman said.

Three years ago, the Dutch parliament made it legal for doctors to inject a sedative and a lethal dose of muscle relaxant at the request of adult patients suffering great pain with no hope of relief.

The Groningen Protocol, as the hospital's guidelines have come to be known, would create a legal framework for permitting doctors to actively end the life of newborns deemed to be in similar pain from incurable disease or extreme deformities.


And how will they determine if such individual are in severe pain? Why, they'll just know.

The guideline says euthanasia is acceptable when the child's medical team and independent doctors agree the pain cannot be eased and there is no prospect for improvement, and when parents think it's best.

Anyone care to place a bet as to how long that last element remains in place, or is even given pro forma respect?

Examples include extremely premature births, where children suffer brain damage from bleeding and convulsions; and diseases where a child could only survive on life support for the rest of its life, such as severe cases of spina bifida and epidermosis bullosa, a rare blistering illness.

Anyone care to place a bet as to how long the list of example remains this short? I give it no more than 12 months before Down's Syndrome, for instance, is added, whether publically or not.

The hospital revealed last month it carried out four such mercy killings in 2003, and reported all cases to government prosecutors. There have been no legal proceedings against the hospital or the doctors.

Roman Catholic organizations and the Vatican have reacted with outrage to the announcement, and U.S. euthanasia opponents contend the proposal shows the Dutch have lost their moral compass.

"The slippery slope in the Netherlands has descended already into a vertical cliff," said Wesley J. Smith, a prominent California-based critic, in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Child euthanasia remains illegal everywhere. Experts say doctors outside Holland do not report cases for fear of prosecution.

"As things are, people are doing this secretly and that's wrong," said Eduard Verhagen, head of Groningen's children's clinic. "In the Netherlands we want to expose everything, to let everything be subjected to vetting."


And if medical personnel are doing this now, secretly and illegally, what makes Dr. Verhagen think that those whose cases are turned down after "vetting" won't just go ahead and do it anyway? Doctors in Holland have been killing adult patients for years on nothing more than the approval of their own conscience. Are they really going to trust themselves with children?

The question answers itself.
Athanasius on 12.02.04 @ 04:06 AM EST [link]


Wednesday, December 1st

Stroud trial underway


First word from the trial of Rev. Beth Stroud is that her defense will be unable to challenge the Discipline's ban on gay clergy:

The presiding judge in the church trial of a Methodist minister who declared she is a lesbian in a committed relationship ruled Wednesday that the cleric's defense could not call witnesses who would challenge the denomination's ban on sexually active gay clergy.

The decision by Joseph Yeakel, the retired bishop of Washington, D.C., will make it harder for the Rev. Irene Elizabeth Stroud to mount a successful defense. Stroud said after the ruling that, "to win a verdict would be an extraordinary work of the Holy Spirit. I don't expect that."

Yeakel issued his decision in a private session on the opening day of the trial, which included selection of 13 jurors from regional clergy.

Prosecuting attorneys said they had argued that technical and constitutional questions about the ban should be raised before the church's highest court or its legislative body, not at trial.


And that's as it should be. It isn't the law of the church that's on trial, but a minister who has confessed to breaking that law. Her complaint, to the extent she has one, is with the General Conference and her fellow Methodists.

The United Methodist News Service says that jury selection began, with a pool of 66 being winnowed down to 13. Fourteen decided not to serve because they didn't support the Discipline's ban. As promised, members of Soulforce were there to protest:

As the proceedings began this morning, protesters with the Soulforce organization held signs outside. One sign said, "Open Your Hearts, Minds & Doors to God’s Lesbian Gay, Bisexual & Transgender People."

"What we are doing here is calling attention to the hypocrisy of the United Methodist Church's slogan of 'Open Hearts. Open Minds. Open Doors,' said Laura Montgomery Rutt, Soulforce communications coordinator. "It is not true. When you kick people out of the church for telling the truth about who they are, (that) is also hypocrisy. The church needs to open its heart, its mind and its doors to God's lesbian, gay and transgender people."


Because of the general weakness of their position, Soulforce is required to exaggerate, distort, and mislead at every turn. The quote from Rutt is a good example. No one is going to be "kicked out of the church" as a result of this trial. Rev. Stroud has even been promised a job by her current congregation if she has her ordination credentials lifted. But the victimization mindset has to be constantly reassured that there is indeed a martyrdom of sorts going on.

In fact, the hearts, minds, and doors of Methodist churches are wide open for GLBT people, who are called to faith in Christ, repentence for sin, and holiness of life just like everyone else. The difference is that folks like Soulforce keep telling them they don't have to turn from habitual sin, and holiness and homosexuality are a splendid fit. The people who are hurt by such an approach are GLBT people themselves, sad to say.

By the way, here's the "excellent photo opportunity" Soulforce was trumpeting yesterday:


Athanasius on 12.01.04 @ 11:54 PM EST [link]


Broadcast giants thumb noses at UCC


A short while back I had some uncomplimentary things to say about the United Church of Christ's new ad campaign that implicitly trashes other churches in the name of boosting the UCC's market share. But that doesn't mean I thought the broadcast networks should refuse to air it:

The CBS and NBC television networks are refusing to run a 30-second television ad from the United Church of Christ because its all-inclusive welcome has been deemed "too controversial."

The ad, part of the denomination's new, broad identity campaign set to begin airing nationwide on Dec. 1, states that--like Jesus--the United Church of Christ seeks to welcome all people, regardless of ability, age, race, economic circumstance or sexual orientation.

According to a written explanation from CBS, the United Church of Christ is being denied network access because its ad implies acceptance of gay and lesbian couples--among other minority constituencies--and is, therefore, too "controversial."

"Because this commercial touches on the exclusion of gay couples and other minority groups by other individuals and organizations," reads an explanation from CBS, "and the fact the Executive Branch has recently proposed a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, this spot is unacceptable for broadcast on the [CBS and UPN] networks."

Apparently, NBC has rejected the spot for similar reasons.

Negotiations between network officials and the church's representatives broke down today (Nov. 30), on the day before the ad campaign was set to begin airing nationwide on a combination of broadcast and cable networks. The ad has been accepted and will air on a number of networks, including ABC Family, AMC, BET, Discovery, Fox, Hallmark, History, Nick@Nite, TBS, TNT, Travel and TV Land, among others.

The debut 30-second commercial features two muscle-bound "bouncers" standing guard outside a symbolic, picturesque church and selecting which persons are permitted to attend Sunday services. Written text interrupts the scene, announcing, "Jesus didn't turn people away. Neither do we." A narrator then proclaims the United Church of Christ's commitment to Jesus' extravagant welcome: "No matter who you are, or where you are on life's journey, you are welcome here." (The ad can be viewed online at www.stillspeaking.com)

"We find it disturbing that the networks in question seem to have no problem exploiting gay persons through mindless comedies or titillating dramas, but when it comes to a church's loving welcome of committed gay couples, that's where they draw the line," says the Rev. Robert Chase, director of the UCC's communication ministry.

"The consolidation of TV network ownership into the hands of a few executives today puts freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression in jeopardy," says former FCC Commissioner Gloria Tristani, currently managing director of the UCC's Office of Communication. "By refusing to air the United Church of Christ's paid commercial, CBS and NBC are stifling religious expression. They are denying the communities they serve a suitable access to differing ideas and expressions."


Given that CBS and NBC are normally in the forefront of those pushing gay rights (NBC is the network of Will and Grace, after all), this strikes me as bizarre. Unless, that is, the phrase, "Because this commercial touches on the exclusion of gay couples and other minority groups by other individuals and organizations" is a way of saying that they recognized what I did as soon as I saw the ad: it's not just an ad for the UCC, it's also a slam at other churches. Of course, the reference to the proposed Federal Marriage Amendment is a total non sequiter, so there's no telling what this is really about. I've written to CBS to ask about their statement (I'd like to see the whole thing, not just what the UCC put in their release), and I'll let you know if I get a response.

UPDATE: According to CNN-Money, as of 2:35 this afternoon CBS and NBC had not returned calls about this matter. Nor has CBS replied to my inquiry (like they'd talk to me and not CNN, ha ha).

UPDATE: CNN-Money has updated their story, adding this from CBS:

A CBS spokesman confirmed that the ad was banned, but would not comment directly about the above statement.

"It was against our policy of accepting advocacy advertising," said the spokesman.


UPDATE: A bit more leaks out, this time from NBC, which apparently agrees with me about this ad:

An NBC spokeswoman said the problem with the ad was not its depiction of same sex couples at church, but its implication that other religions are not open to all people.

I still think they should have run the ad, but at least they recognized it for what it is.
Athanasius on 12.01.04 @ 05:15 AM EST [link]


"Activists" flock to Stroud trial


Soulforce, a gay rights advocacy group, has announced that it will be out in force (pardon the pun) at the trial of the Rev. Beth Stroud tomorrow. According to their press release:

On December 1-3, 2004, Rev. Beth Stroud will be facing a trial in the United Methodist Church, not for what she did, but for who she is.

Propagandistic spin. There is no prohibition on persons of homosexual orientation serving as United Methodist ministers. She has been charged specifically with engaging in behavior that is contrary to the Book of Discipline. Details, details....

Rev. Stroud is a minister at First United Methodist Church of Germantown (FUMCOG) and is being tried because she is an "out" lesbian in a committed relationship. The trial is taking place in Eastern Pennsylvania, at Camp Innabah near Pottstown, PA.

Over the past thirty years, the General Conference of the United Methodist Church has established policies and adopted church laws that discriminate against gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people, denying them opportunity to be ordained clergy and to celebrate loving committed relationships in holy unions.


It's interesting to me that folks like Soulforce cannot conceive of being anything other than sexually active. To them it is somehow violative of the nature of GLBT people to expect them to not engage in behavior that Scripture condemns as sinful.

"The laws of The United Methodist Church are such that gay people who lie about who they are and who they love are welcome to serve the Church by answering God's call to ministry. However, if they tell the truth, the Church puts them on trial and prosecutes them for being honest," said Rev. Jimmy Creech, Chairperson of the Board of Directors for Soulforce, Inc. "The trial is an act of violence against the essential dignity and integrity of gay people. It is the height of hypocrisy to punish people for telling the truth."

So, if a murderer comes forward and confesses to the crime, is it "the height of hypocrisy to punish people for telling the truth"? Telling the truth is a virtue, but it is not the only virtue, and by itself doesn't justify anything else. The actions of those who want to engage in prohibited behavior must be justified on their own. The prosecution, of course, is not for being honest, but for confessing to a violation of disciplinary standards. If you don't like those standards, go to the United Church of Christ, or continue to try to change them, or take your medicine when you violate them. But don't whine about how your being prosecuted for telling the truth, when that isn't what it's about.

Soulforce defines spiritual violence as "the misuse of religion to sanction the condemnation and rejection of any of God's children." The Soulforce mission states it is "committed to ending spiritual violence perpetuated by religious policies and teachings." Soulforce will be carrying "stop signs" that say "Stop Spiritual Violence" as well as other signs and banners, and vigiling in cooperation with FUMCOG, Reconciling Ministries Network, and the Methodist Federation for Social Action.

I love their definition of "spiritual violence." It essentially says that no ethical standard based on religious teaching can be used to make any judgment about the rightness or wrongness of any action, or at the very least that no individual can be held to account for their actions based on those judgments. Soulforce, however, doesn't hesitate to label those who take a contrary view of homosexual behavior as "oppressors" who are waging "holy war" against gays.

Oh, there's one other thing about this press release that I thought amusing. Religion News Service, for whatever reason, left this appendage on the release when they posted it on their site:

MEDIA: This is an excellent photo opportunity, as well as a controversial story. For interviews, contact...

...followed by a name and phone number. A bunch of people carrying "Stop Spiritual Violence" signs will be an excellent photo op. I'll be checking around to see how many media outlets take their self-important advice.
Athanasius on 12.01.04 @ 12:00 AM EST [">link]



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